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Duste Rosnops
Should Marijuana Be Legalised? Medically, ethically, economically, and legally, drug use and sale freedoms have been a part of national and international politics for decades, if not longer in varying forms. Most notably is cannabis/marijuana/weed/green/the wacky tobacky, an illegal narcotic in the majority of Western law books, that...
#1  Posted 4 years ago  |  Reply  |  + 6 Cool
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DangerShroom Sponsor
I think all drugs should be legal, but regulated.
People who has legitimate problems and want help should get it. With a government regulated market the illegal and essentially "free market" that drugs have now would be gone. Crime rates would without a doubt go down, and less people would come into that vicious cycle and probably not become addicts or criminals.

With less people getting thrown in jail and the heavy reduction drug related crimes would save the government some serious money. Not to mention that when the state regulates the drugs they would make some money on it. Just like alcohol is in Norway, and believe me, it fucking works.(Alas, drugs have't gotten as far yet)

The only ones not benefiting or making money on this would be the private prison industry and drug lords.
#1,951  Posted 11 months ago  |  Reply
Marksman_91 Sponsor
Uruguay government to allow the regulated sale of marijuana

I can now see Uruguay's tourism shooting through the roof.
#1,954  Posted 11 months ago  |  Reply  |  + 3 Ditto
swooper74 Sponsor
Yup, seems legit.
#1,955  Posted 11 months ago  |  Reply
Chi_Mangetsu mulattobutts
In reply to swooper74, #1955:



Seriously, what the hell?
#1,956  Posted 11 months ago  |  Reply
Izzi EYES OF FURY
In reply to swooper74, #1955:
After being pressed further, she conceded that heroin was more addictive than marijuana, but added “some people become addicted marijuana and some people become addicted to methamphetamine.”
This has got to be one of the stupidest things I've read in a long time. I find "addiction" to marijuana questionable to begin with, but let's say it really happens. Some people become addicted to a drug A because they use drug A while others become addicted to a different drug B because they use drug B? SHOCKING! It's like I'm learning something new that isn't totally obvious and completely irrelevant to the line of questioning!


Post edited 6/20/12 8:44PM
#1,957  Posted 11 months ago  |  Reply  |  + 1 Ditto
Marksman_91 Sponsor
In reply to swooper74, #1955:

Am I the only one here thinking this bitch should be fired?
#1,958  Posted 11 months ago  |  Reply
ErokDragun Forum Mod
In reply to Marksman_91, #1958:

she should have never been hired
#1,959  Posted 11 months ago  |  Reply  |  + 3 Ditto
Marksman_91 Sponsor
Government-sponsored study shows just how fucking stupid the DEA is

EDIT: Credit goes to Erok for posting this on Facebook

Post edited 7/03/12 12:39PM
#1,960  Posted 10 months ago  |  Reply  |  + 2 Cool
Izzi EYES OF FURY
In reply to Marksman_91, #1960:

Government has enough credibility problems without purposefully ignoring facts or making shit up. I don't get why they bother doing this sort of thing.
#1,961  Posted 10 months ago  |  Reply
swooper74 Sponsor
In reply to Izzi, #1961:

Because 1. People make billions off the prison industry, and they need "customers". And 2. It's mostly poor black males going to jail, so what do rich white legislators care?
#1,962  Posted 10 months ago  |  Reply  |  + 6 Ditto
DiMono Site Admin
In reply to swooper74, #1962:

It's sad how accurate this post is.
#1,963  Posted 10 months ago  |  Reply
Izzi EYES OF FURY
In reply to DiMono, #1963:

Yeah, now I'm bummed out.
#1,964  Posted 10 months ago  |  Reply
ErokDragun Forum Mod
In reply to swooper74, #1962:
In reply to Izzi, #1961:

Because 1. People make billions off the prison slave industry, and they need "customers". And 2. It's mostly poor black males going into jail slavery, so what do rich white legislators care?

if it were just the violent miscreants in the system < it wouldnt be true, but since there are far more non violent offenders in there, it is what it is. When did it become a good idea to profit of putting people in cages?

IMO, when there is a violent offender, or some other nasty type of human, then it is society that failed that individual (through lack of education, opportunity, psychological help, or gene therapy....that last may still be a bit sci-fi, but it wont be long), so it is societies responsibility to foot the bill. There should be no one making a profit from it.
#1,965  Posted 10 months ago  |  Reply
DiMono Site Admin
In reply to Izzi, #1964:

I hear the solution to that is marijuana.
#1,966  Posted 10 months ago  |  Reply  |  + 5 Zing!
Cometgreen
In the face of lingering unemployment and a shitty medical care system (and anemic tax receipts, if that's your thing), the LA City Council has voted to ban medical marijuana dispensaries:
The council voted 13 to 1 to allow only nonprofit collectives of up to three people who want to grow and share pot for the medically ill behind closed doors.

[...]

The core of the ordinance says that medical marijuana "businesses" will be banned until a "regulatory scheme" can be realized by the city, ostensibly after various challenges to similar bans and other pot shop regulation schemes are decided by the California Supreme Court.
#1,967  Posted 9 months ago  |  Reply
Brostein
''Legalize weed'' does not have to be ''Regularise weed''. Just sayin'.

Anyway, what I hate most in the world is hypocrisy. So if alcohol and some other drugs are allowed to be used we might as well legalize all others. Everything comes down to one thing, Do we want this in our society or do we not? Apparently, most people don't want marijuana legalized, at least where I come from, but they think it's okidoki for people to consume alcohol, which is a far more dangerous and manipulative drug.

You have probably heard this point of view before, but I just can't not stand this society full of hypocrites, especially in this matter.
#1,968  Posted 9 months ago  |  Reply
ErokDragun Forum Mod
In reply to Brostein, #1968:

the problem with your statement is the question "do we want this in our society?" it already is in our society. The viable question is "who do you want to profit from this substance in our society?"
#1,969  Posted 9 months ago  |  Reply
ChaosAD Chemist Nerd
The illicit drug trade is part of the reason crime is so problematic in the United States... the criminalization of small amounts of marijuana keep prices up, as well as risks. Organized crime in America really got a "shot in the arm" so to speak during Prohibition. The organized crime element still plays part in the drug trade, as well as gangs, from "sets" all the way up to national organizations like motorcycle clubs. Legalization would likely kill their main source of income, and force them to find something else to do to survive.

The war on drugs is a failure. I'm not saying we need a baggie of heroin in every medicine cabinet across America, but if people want to do drugs, they will find a way - why not address the problem of why they want to, rather than making them criminals for doing so?

Also tying in, is the illicit gun trade... but that's a whole 'nother an of worms. Marijuana, in addition to the rest of the drugs should be legalized, regulated, and taxed under the same provisions also tobacco and alcohol.
#1,970  Posted 9 months ago  |  Reply  |  + 2 Ditto
Brostein
In reply to ErokDragun, #1969:

..What? Legalization of marijuana would mean that it's something that we want in our society, call it acceptance, and therefor my statement. The other option would be fighting it.

I don't want to add Marijuana to the list of drugs that the government have monopoly over here in Sweden.

In reply to ChaosAD, #1970:

''Legalization would likely kill their main source of income, and force them to find something else to do to survive.''

Like, other drugs then?

You're a bit naive if you think that they'll stop with crime. You're way of thinking is a bit naive, actually.



#1,971  Posted 9 months ago  |  Reply  |  - 1 Flamebait
S1apSh0es ItsAllGravy
In reply to Brostein, #1971:

ChaosAD never said that they'd stop committing crimes, but their resources would be stretched in finding other means of income. IE illicit gun running, as he pointed out. He also said to legalize and regulate all drugs, not just marijuana.

Post edited 8/04/12 11:36AM
#1,972  Posted 9 months ago  |  Reply
Chi_Mangetsu mulattobutts
Won't lie, this made me smile:

#1,973  Posted 9 months ago  |  Reply  |  + 2 Cool
Chi_Mangetsu mulattobutts
#1,974  Posted 9 months ago  |  Reply  |  + 1 Cool
swooper74 Sponsor
In reply to Mongopwn, #1975:

Well, teenagers' brain chemistry is a mess, so heavy use of just about anything would likely have a long term impact one way or another. Don't think many people here are pushing for legalizing daily use for teenagers any more than they would want to do away with the drinking age or restricting tobacco use for minors. It's certainly interesting though, but I don't see it as fully material to the issue.
#1,976  Posted 9 months ago  |  Reply
Mongopwn
In reply to swooper74, #1976:

I just figured this was the best place to post it.
#1,977  Posted 9 months ago  |  Reply
pal_sch
[link=http://boingboing.net/2012/09/01/drugs-without-the-hot-air-2.html]Drugs: Without the Hot Air gets a US release. I still need to read this one.
#1,978  Posted 8 months ago  |  Reply
rmpcop1
Definatley, due to that fact that it is not super addictive, and has no negative effects worse than that of acholhal
#1,979  Posted 8 months ago  |  Reply
Izzi EYES OF FURY
In reply to rmpcop1, #1979:
Definatley, due to that fact that it is not super addictive, and has no negative effects worse than that of acholhal
Spell check and return.
#1,980  Posted 8 months ago  |  Reply  |  + 2 Funny
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