the clinton initiative to get car gas milage up really high should be better implimented, whether just through better car designs or hybrids, i forget the details of his plan, but i know its not being enforced. the suv's on the road today are just car manufactuars way around the legislation, majority of the suv's out there are just minivan's with a different name and higher chasie, so the fall into the truck class, and are un effected by the gas milage legislation. that said, my pick of the hybrids is the ford escape hybrid, before, the escape came in a hybrid model, i thought all ford suv's were junk, xcept the ford explore sport track
one can get alot of speed out of a car with out that big of an engine if the car's body is built right, the bigger engine, the more torq, faster acceleration, but speed depends alot on the car
hydrogen cars are being tested on closed courses, but be don't have an efficient way to separate the hydrogen, i think, i may be mixing this with a movie
No, they have efficient ways of doing it. It's actually used in the process of refining oil. So most oil refineries have a hydrogen "factory" (?) near them.
ok so i was a little confuse, but i revolution on such scale, make all new cars hydrogen powered would be expensive in the serivice once they were sold to the consumer
tax credit are always nice, who doesn't love free money, in any form, and i'm not talking about expense of the car, the expense of training mechanics, and making hydrogen fill up stations
not really... engines are all based on the same basic principles and you'd fill a hydrogen car pretty much the same way as you would do it with gas all you'd have to do is convert the old stations...
hydrogen just burns like infinity times better than its oil-based counterpart
i know, its cleaner and such, but, you have to work witha whole new sealing system since hydrogen comes in a gas, unless you talk about super cooling, or adding huge amount of pressure. the low temp would be dangerous to un pretected skin of the common consumer, and the pressure would cause the same problems as the gas form
Another problem is where to get the hydrogen. There are some iffy sources, but most currently relies on using crude oil to make the hydrogen, ending up with pollution in the long run.
A very likley thing will be <insert energy source here> hybrids, because hybrids are not an alternate fuel car. They are just good at recovering wasted kinetic energy/momentum. It doesn't matter what kind of fuel you use, if you hit the brakes and the brakes turn your momentum into heat, then your wasting fuel.
Now this is just my speculation: Some day, we will find a cleaner non-fossil fuel energy source, and use hydogen as a method of storing energy. I heard that they are already developing a fuel cell laptop battery. I'll be waiting when that day comes.
just saw a video on the Hindenburg yesterday, but, the hydrogen would not be stored in inflated ballons for lift, but in sealed tanks holding well, i don't know how much, sort of like storing air in scoopa tanks then putting it in the car somewhere
Man, we probably need a Hindenburg Thread. I heard that not only was it inflated with hydrogen, but the ballon was coated with a shiny substance. Guess what that substance was: Thermite.
Anyway back to hybrids. It's almost imposible to find a qualified hybrid maintainence shop around.
sorry, but if we continue to use ICE's all fuel will always be explosive. Unleaded is explosive. hybrids are cool cause they use common sense to help the environment and get the most energy out of the vehicle. so for those of you who are scared to blow up, think about this: 100% of brand new model cars always have something wrong with them that wasn't caught in testing. all that shit you saw in Fight Club about insurance companies hiding that fact, it's true. it's mostly just mistakes in manufacturing and stuff. Just ground out your fuel lines, or tranny fluid lines and presto! you have a vehicle fire. so whatever you're driving in now, is potentially a cool fireworks display waiting to happen. Have a great Air Force day!
P.S. It's the fuel vapors that are most explosive. You can drop a lit match into a full tank of JP-8 fuel and it will NOT blow up. It's when it's almost empty. The vapors react nicely to burning oxygen. Well, that's the theory we learn in tech school at least. I would never try it, nor recommend anyone do it. (i allready know some idiot will try it)
No u.
Actually, I'm looking into one, mostly because I drive like a maniac, and waste tons of gas.
I would orgasm like a maniac.
the clinton initiative to get car gas milage up really high should be better implimented, whether just through better car designs or hybrids, i forget the details of his plan, but i know its not being enforced. the suv's on the road today are just car manufactuars way around the legislation, majority of the suv's out there are just minivan's with a different name and higher chasie, so the fall into the truck class, and are un effected by the gas milage legislation. that said, my pick of the hybrids is the ford escape hybrid, before, the escape came in a hybrid model, i thought all ford suv's were junk, xcept the ford explore sport track
agreed it would save a ton of money on gas, and that's a good thing
i would love to be head of congress for a year or two, just to fix all the dam loop holes, Suv's the top of my list
What about all the muscle car fanatics? Would the new standard grandfather previously made cars and only work on new cars that are not produced yet?
one can get alot of speed out of a car with out that big of an engine if the car's body is built right, the bigger engine, the more torq, faster acceleration, but speed depends alot on the car
Just because they're hybrids doesn't mean they can't have power.
Hybrid engines are getting better all the time.
One example is in the new Mistubishi Eclipse being developed. It's a hybrid but supposed to be the fastest Eclipse yet.
I'd go one step further and make hydrogen cars the standard.
They have the technology. It will save the planet. DO IT ALREADY DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!
hydrogen cars are being tested on closed courses, but be don't have an efficient way to separate the hydrogen, i think, i may be mixing this with a movie
Yeah, if you're going to revolution, why do it half assed with hybrids?
have a revolution*, excuse me
i know for a time a british taxi service was testing air pressure powered cars there, i don't know wat happened with that project
No, they have efficient ways of doing it.
It's actually used in the process of refining oil.
So most oil refineries have a hydrogen "factory" (?) near them.
ok so i was a little confuse, but i revolution on such scale, make all new cars hydrogen powered would be expensive in the serivice once they were sold to the consumer
if you flood the market, they wouldn't be that expensive
and people with hybrid cars now, get a nice tax credit...
tax credit are always nice, who doesn't love free money, in any form, and i'm not talking about expense of the car, the expense of training mechanics, and making hydrogen fill up stations
not really...
engines are all based on the same basic principles
and you'd fill a hydrogen car pretty much the same way as you would do it with gas
all you'd have to do is convert the old stations...
hydrogen just burns like infinity times better than its oil-based counterpart
i know, its cleaner and such, but, you have to work witha whole new sealing system since hydrogen comes in a gas, unless you talk about super cooling, or adding huge amount of pressure. the low temp would be dangerous to un pretected skin of the common consumer, and the pressure would cause the same problems as the gas form
A very likley thing will be <insert energy source here> hybrids, because hybrids are not an alternate fuel car. They are just good at recovering wasted kinetic energy/momentum. It doesn't matter what kind of fuel you use, if you hit the brakes and the brakes turn your momentum into heat, then your wasting fuel.
Now this is just my speculation: Some day, we will find a cleaner non-fossil fuel energy source, and use hydogen as a method of storing energy. I heard that they are already developing a fuel cell laptop battery. I'll be waiting when that day comes.
The problem with having a hydrogen powered car is that hydrogen is extremely volatile, ex. Hindenburg. So get rear ended in a hydrogen car = *BOOM*
Supposivly they are safe and their gas tanks are out of this world. But yeah, we just need to start drilling on Mars or something.
Go to wired.com
their latest issue is devoted to hybrids
just saw a video on the Hindenburg yesterday, but, the hydrogen would not be stored in inflated ballons for lift, but in sealed tanks holding well, i don't know how much, sort of like storing air in scoopa tanks then putting it in the car somewhere
Man, we probably need a Hindenburg Thread. I heard that not only was it inflated with hydrogen, but the ballon was coated with a shiny substance. Guess what that substance was: Thermite.
Anyway back to hybrids. It's almost imposible to find a qualified hybrid maintainence shop around.
My mother has one of the first generation Honda Civic hybrids. It's great, but I'm sure that what they have now is infinitely better.
Hydrogen becomes even more explosive when compressed, I'm all for an alternate fuel source and hyrdogen is probably it but I don't wanna blow up.
sorry, but if we continue to use ICE's all fuel will always be explosive. Unleaded is explosive. hybrids are cool cause they use common sense to help the environment and get the most energy out of the vehicle. so for those of you who are scared to blow up, think about this: 100% of brand new model cars always have something wrong with them that wasn't caught in testing. all that shit you saw in Fight Club about insurance companies hiding that fact, it's true. it's mostly just mistakes in manufacturing and stuff. Just ground out your fuel lines, or tranny fluid lines and presto! you have a vehicle fire. so whatever you're driving in now, is potentially a cool fireworks display waiting to happen. Have a great Air Force day!
P.S. It's the fuel vapors that are most explosive. You can drop a lit match into a full tank of JP-8 fuel and it will NOT blow up. It's when it's almost empty. The vapors react nicely to burning oxygen. Well, that's the theory we learn in tech school at least. I would never try it, nor recommend anyone do it. (i allready know some idiot will try it)